Cass Cooper interviews Erika Dobbs, a retired Naval officer and CEO of Dobbs Defense Solutions. They discuss Erika's journey from boot camp to her leadership roles in the Navy, the challenges she faced, and how her military experience shaped her career in cybersecurity. Erika shares insights on leading through chaos, the importance of resilience, and the unique challenges faced by women in STEM. The conversation highlights the interconnectedness of the military and private sectors, emphasizing the significance of cybersecurity in national security.